Hello my friends. Welcome to another episode of Passive Real Estate Investing. I’m your host, Marco Santarelli. Well, I just had a very exciting interview with a good friend of mine, someone who’s very influential, very impactful, knowledgeable, well connected, humble, and he’s my friend Tim Story. Many of you probably know of him or have heard of him, but he’s just a, an very interesting guy, very high level coach, talks about mindset and mentality. He’s got a new book that came out a few years ago called The Miracle Mentality, and something we talked about today. And something that I really wanted to focus on was overcoming toxic thoughts and negative thinking, and how can we get the right mindset set the right mindset so we achieve success, we achieve our goals, achieve our dreams. And it’s probably not what you are thinking you’re going to hear.
It’s very kind of a refreshing look at how our mind works and how we set our mindset and how to overcome obstacles. And that’s really, you know, part of the, the key to this is, is overcoming those obstacles. You actually need a new mindset. And that’s what he calls the miracle mentality. And, and my understanding of that at a very, very high level is that it’s where our dreams, whatever they may be, are actually achievable. Things that you hope are actionable. And that’s a key thing. Hope being actionable. And, you know, there’s a streak of spiritual healing that is tied through this whole thing. So I asked them about the miracle mentality, what makes it up, why it’s an important concept for personal development and growth. And we broke that down. You know, there’s a deeper meaning there, something bigger. It involves adventure, more opportunity.
And then, you know, we took a little bit of time to talk about magic and believing in miracles and what causes it to slip away. Why do we actually lose what we’re born with and what we’ve been groomed with as a young child? And then it just starts to go away. And a lot of that has to do with the environment. There’s a very particular environment that we need in order to grow and foster and nurture having the right mindset. And, and I’m not gonna give that away here. We, we talk about it in the interview and I love when he talks about what it is to have an uncommon life and why you want an uncommon life. And then what are the big things that take away, what are the biggest factors that erode that mindset and that faith and belief? So we covered a lot.
It was a great interview and I honestly could have gone for another two more hours. But I’m gonna be meeting with him in a couple weeks for lunch and since he lives so close to me here in Southern California. And then of course, he’s one of our regular monthly speakers at our Major Aspire tour events, which this year will be approximately 4,000 plus people per event. So yes, if you can make it to one of our Aspire Tour events, you know, by all means, you know, get yourself a ticket and attend. You won’t regret it. You’ll love it. Love it, love it. So that is my intro here for today. Hope you enjoy the show with my guest, Tim story, and we will catch you on the other side. Well, it’s my great pleasure to welcome Tim’s story to the show. Tim is an acclaimed author, speaker, life coach, and he is known for inspiring and motivating people from all walks of life, from entertainment executives, celebrities, and even athletes to adults and children in the most deprived neighborhoods in the country. Tim’s traveled to 75 countries and he is spoken literally to millions of people. He often meets privately to counsel, high profile leaders in various industries. He’s a wonderful guy. I’ve gotten to know him over probably the last 4, 5, 6 months because he attends our monthly Aspire tour events in major cities around the country. People love him when he’s on stage and when he’s speaking, I can’t say enough about him and I’m honored to have him on the show.
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So, with that, Tim, welcome to the show.
What a privilege to be on. And I’m loving your background. It looks very scenic back there, <laugh>.
Oh yeah. Well, you know what, this is Southern California. We pay the price to live here, but you can’t complain with the weather in the sky, so.
Exactly.
Yeah. Yeah. I, I have a saying, live where you want and invest where it makes sense. So this is not a place where I invest <laugh>
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Tim, you’re an amazing guy. You know, we have you speak to two to 3000 plus people each month at our events or monthly events, the Aspire Tour events. Every time I talk to people about you, they love you. You know, they love hearing from you, you know, a lot of great, great people all over the country and even the world. Do me a favor and tell me and my audience a little bit more about yourself. ’cause You’re a very interesting guy.
Thank you. So, as a young person, I played sports like so many people do. And I loved baseball, basketball, football, and did pretty well all the way through high school in these sports. But my junior year in high school a friend of mine gave me a book about the life of Mother Teresa. And I remember saying to her, why do you want me to read this book? And she says, Tim, she reminds me of you <laugh>. And I said, okay. So I took this thick book and I read this book Marco, about this lady who was a nun who heard the cry of the orphans, and she decided to do something about it. And I’m telling you, it touched my heart. And I said, part of my life, if not all of my life, is gonna be helping the herding the underdog. So I went to my guidance counselor and he said, I know you’re thinking of going to USC, but I want to challenge you. You may want to go to seminary. And he goes, I’m not even that religious, but I just think you’re kind of like that guy. So I ended up going to seminary, going on and on, getting a doctorate in World Religion, a master’s in therapy. And I became a humanitarian all these years and now have been over 75 countries, as you said, helping people’s lives.
That’s an incredible story. And I know there’s so much more to your story than what you’re sharing. You’re being pretty pretty humble about yourself, <laugh>, but I think people are gonna get to know you a little bit better here as we go for the next 30, 40 minutes. You know, you mentioned a book and, and books can have an, you know, an amazing deep impact on us, especially if the message is good and it resonates. And you know, you’ve written two or three books as I recall. Yeah. Your most recent book is The Miracle Mentality. And I, I didn’t understand what that meant. At first it was like, okay, that’s an interesting title, but it’s a little hard to digest. But as I started going through the book, I started to realize, okay, this makes a lot of sense. So you’ve got this book, the Miracle Mentality. Can you give us a brief overview of what inspired you to write it and basically the central message and what you hope readers will take away from it?
The idea for the book came probably 20 years ago. I was talking to the Koka, who became a great friend of mine. He said, you mentor me about spirituality, I’ll mentor you about business and life. I said, sounds fair, <laugh>. So that was 30 years of friendship like that. And Iaccoca told me a story that Walt Disney himself told him. Walt Disney told Lee Coca. He said, Hey, I went into this amusement park in the 1930s and I said, someday I’m gonna build my own amusement park, but mine’s gonna be different, better, more magical. And I remember when Lee Coca told me this, I said, okay, tell me that again. What, what were the three things? I’m gonna build my own, but it’s gonna be different, better, and more magical. And I thought, wow, that’s pretty interesting. ’cause That’s how a lot of people think.
Different, better, more magical. So if I was to take you, Marco, when you were a kid and asked you at five, six or seven, what do you wanna be? It would’ve been something like, I want to be a cowboy, or I wanna be an astronaut, or I want to be a baseball player. It, it, it would’ve been something big. It, it wouldn’t have been like something small ’cause little kids think different, better, more magical. So that was based off the conversation with Lee. I coka later when Harper Collins and I were talking about what kind of book they wanted to do with Tim Story, I thought of that story. So I said, let me look up the word magical, and it meant extraordinary, uncommon, not normal meant miracle. And I went, oh man, that guy, Walt Disney had a miracle mentality. And that’s where it all started.
Interesting, interesting. So are you saying we want to live in the magical, and if that’s true, what does exactly that mean? Is that a state of mind or is that a state of presence? How do you define that?
I think that little children, they just have it inside them to believe for more. If you took any child into a toy store, they believe their parent can buy any toy that’s up there, <laugh>. So that’s why you could, you could say to a little girl, you just get the Barbie and they’re like, and what about the dream house <laugh>? They’re not wondering about do the parents have money? Because I think truly that an utmost God created us to think utmost thoughts. And so that’s why I could go to the toughest township in South Africa and speak to the kids there to go to some of the best schools, private schools in Connecticut. And I see the same miracle mentality. So I, I really think it’s innate, but then we have to grow it. And that’s where Carol Dweck’s been so good from Stanford. She talks about the difference between a fixed mindset and a growth mindset. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> me. And you decided to have a growth mindset.
Yeah, that’s true. And I’ve always believed that, at least as far back as I can remember. So does that mean that we’re actually conditioned at a young age to believe in miracles and believe in magic? Or is that just a fantasy human trait that we are born with and then it’s like conditioned out of us?
I think it is innate. So it is inside of us. Just like if you were to buy a Tesla, there are certain things within that Tesla that makes it a Tesla. People that are on this planet, roughly 8 billion. It is inside of us to think beyond, to dream beyond, to do beyond. And here’s a good thing that you just said. It’s either conditioned out of us.
Yeah.
Or it’s strengthened by three things. Education. Mm-Hmm. <Affirmative> conversation, observation. So me being raised in Compton, California, seven people in a two bedroom apartment, how did I go from that to working with Oprah Winfrey and being on her show all the time didn’t just happen. It wasn’t just luck. People cared enough about me to train me and build me up and educate me and strengthen my miracle mentality.
Okay. So let’s just define the miracle mentality before we go deeper into this. What do you mean by the miracle mentality?
Okay. So a mentality as you know, is a perspective. Yeah. Okay. It is a point of view. It is a mindset. So it has been said, ’cause I love to study the greats of the past. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. So back since to 1930s, some of the thought leaders started saying, our mindset is ours to set. So that’s not something new to the thought leaders of today. So our mindset is ours set. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. So if Tim story and Marco go to a party and there’s a hundred people there, depending on your mindset and my mindset, our opinion of that party could be two different things,
Ah, it’s too many people in a small space, I could say. But the food was great. And you could say, I had the greatest conversation. I talked to Tony Robbins for 45 minutes in the corner. He was awesome. Then Gary V came and we had a great con conversation. I could say I kind of got stuck with this guy that was very negative the whole time. So same party, different perspective. So my mindset on this kind of rainy day in Southern California, ’cause we both live in Southern California, I choose to set my mind on certain things. My mindset is mind to set. So I choose to have a miracle mentality. A miracle again is uncommon. So you cannot shake it outta me. You can’t beat it outta me. You can’t threaten it outta me, <laugh>. It is in me deep. Yeah.
So I guess the miracle mentality is a choice of how we set our mind. Yes. It’s more than that. But clearly it’s an important concept for our own personal development, our, our own personal growth. So I remember in your book you talk about that, and you gotta correct me if I’m wrong on this, but ultimately having a miracle mentality leads to deeper meaning, bigger adventures and more opportunities.
Well, you said that perfect. Because I do know some very grumpy people that have done well in life. <Laugh>.
Yeah, I do too.
I mean, very grumpy. I mean, I was recently in the box with one of the owners of the NFL team and he’s grumpy, but he owns a team, but he’s grumpy. But most people like yourself that do well, they have a miracle mentality. They think uncommon. They think outside the norm. And whether you see that in Michael Jordan in the way he thinks, the late great Kobe Bryant, the mamba mentality, Wayne Gretzky in, in hockey messy and soccer great designers like Ralph Lauren. I just saw a documentary on him that’s phenomenal. And he had a miracle mentality since he was a kid. Like he knew he was gonna be Ralph Lauren. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. So I think we have better odds to have a better life with a miracle mentality.
So you’re saying that we need to have an uncommon life now, does that come before having a miracle mentality? Or do you need to have a miracle mentality in order to have an uncommon life? What comes first?
I think that the miracle mentality comes first. Okay. But if you, Paris Hilton, who I know she was raised in wealth. Yeah. But it was the uncommon thinking that got her own wealth. I remember Robert Kardashian, who was one of my great friends, and he passed away. He told me way back, watch my kids. They’re gonna end up doing great things in business, but they just look like normal kids to me. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>, I’ve known Ken Kim since she was 14. But the mentality of doing things uncommon that came from Robert and from Chris somehow got in the kids. And whether you like the Kardashians or not, it’s up to you. But they have done some pretty good things in the area of business. So I do believe you have to have a miracle mentality before. Okay. But if you already are raised into something that was grand already, you need to keep that miracle mentality to go beyond.
One thing I’ve said to myself for years and years and years is I never want to be normal and I never want to be average <laugh>. Yeah. You know, I’m not saying that I’m better than the next person. I just know that I think outside the box, I think bigger. I want to strive for better things. And when I look around, if I average out the, you know, the 1,000 or thousand people that are around me that I see on an ongoing basis, I don’t want to be the average of all those people. I want to be better, different. I wanna strive for more. So you talk about the uncommon life, you know, maybe explain what the uncommon life, ’cause you know, when you first hear uncommon life, it, you could say, oh, I don’t want that, that that sounds like it’s a downgrade or, you know, a negative thing. But it Yeah. That’s not what you’re talking about.
So the, the common life would be this idea that people think that we are going through life. Mm-Hmm. <Affirmative>, I don’t believe in going through life. Like, oh my God, I’m already 30. Or I can’t believe I hit 45. I, I’ve never seen life like that. I think that life is such a privilege and that I believe in being alive in your life. So we’ve both been around each other. I, one thing I love about you is your quiet strength and also you’re alive in your life. I can tell when somebody’s animated, I am alive in my life. And part of this is this miracle mentality that even if we were facing a pandemic, I was still alive in that Mm-Hmm. <Affirmative>. Even though my father died when I was 10, I still found ways to survive and then to thrive. So no matter what we face, it’s very important to realize that we don’t have to sit in a setback, settle, or cement ourselves. But we can have a certain mindset that will take us to a better place. And that’s why this message is working all over the world. I mean, I get to speak from the White House to prisons to 85,000 people at one time. So this is a message that people respond to. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> because they know I’m talking to them. Mm-Hmm.
<Affirmative>. Well, I think this resonates with everybody if they just open their ears and listen. Yeah. You know, it’s, it’s, we’re all human, we’re all, you know, we all have a common DNA and programming. So it can’t be all that different for one person or another. So, you know, we wanna live in the magical Mm-Hmm. <Affirmative>, you know, we’re born to believe in miracles and maybe we’re conditioned that way, or maybe we’re just born that way. But it seems that as time goes on, it seems to slip away. Yes. And, and this is true for I think most people.
Sadly yes.
So what’s causing it to slip away? Why does this happen?
Well, the thing is very, very important to remember is that we have to go back to our childhood and remember how we used to like to just enjoy life. Right? So I did this research, Marco, for probably three years on children and their animation and the fact that they like to play nonstop.
Yeah. <laugh>
A child will wake up and say, can I play? But yeah, first you gotta eat. Okay. Can now, can I play? Yeah, but you only got 15 minutes ’cause you gotta go to school. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. Can I play with that when I get at it? Mostly if they got a new toy or a new device. Okay. So a lot of the child who is, is set around playing, or if a kid gets a new skateboard, he wants to play, or a kid gets a new surfboard, he wants to play on a surfboard, or a kid gets a new guitar, a male or female, a little girl gets new rollerblades they wanna play as adults. So many people have missed that to be playful again. So I intentionally am playful. I listen to Motown music every day of my life because it triggers me to little Timmy from Compton
That’s cool. With a Big Afro <laugh>.
And I’m listening to my music and I’m like, okay. ’cause I got a lot of jobs, a lot of responsibility, a lot coming at me, a lot of powerful stuff, but a lot of serious stuff where people are hurting and they look for me. But Motown music triggers me to a good place. Okay. Playing golf with happy people like you triggers me to a good place. Going to nice places with nice people triggers me to a good place. So Marco, we have to really go back to places of animation once again.
So, Tim, are you saying that we can all go back and put ourselves in an, a state or an environment where we can get that mindset? We can have that every day. Miracle Day. Okay. Every day.
So as, as you know, I coach big companies like the biggest we have. And one guy who is a big CEO at a large company, he was having a lot of problems with his marriage, with his kids and the pressure at work. So I said to him, what was your favorite show back in the seventies? Was it more the Parch family? Was it I love Lucy? Was it the Brady Bunch? And he goes, why are you asking me this? He was, he was getting irritated with me. Right. And, and, and I had life coach this guy already for five years. And he said, well, you’re irritating me. Why? Why, why are you asking me this? I said, okay, what, what, which one was it? He goes, I loved, I love Lucy. And I said, okay, so here’s your homework assignment for next week. I want you to watch three episodes of I Love Lucy, and then we’re gonna discuss it. And he goes, you, you’re losing your mind. I go, no, seriously. That’s your, that’s your, that’s your exercise. It’s not to read Atomic Habits. No. I, I I want you to watch I love Lucy. This is a true story. So I had sent him the link where he could watch this. I love Lucy. And he watched it and he says, Tim, me and my wife binged watched. We just kept going. We just kept going on. I love Lucy. Yeah.
He says it triggered me back to innocent times. He goes, you little sucker. You knew what you were doing. And I said, okay, so let’s not end now. So now I, I want, whether it’s gun smoke, whether it’s the big valley, whether it’s bonanza. Yeah. I promise you it’s a true story. I triggered that sucker for like three months straight. And he said, man, you just took me back to when I was like, 8, 9, 10. Yeah. 11. And life was so innocent.
So when I tell that story, Marco, what goes through your mind a lot? So one thing that’s going through my mind is what Tony Robbins talks about. And that is, you can change your state by changing your physiology. You know, instead of moping, slouching over and feeling down, you know, sit right up, you know, put your chin up, sit straight with a straight back, maybe go for a walk and, you know, take a deep breath, maybe pound your chest.
Yes.
That changes your state instantly. And you feel better. You feel more alive. So that’s one thing that goes through my mind. The other thing that’s going through my mind is some of the things I’ve done in the past, the TV shows that I used to watch, you know, that made me feel like good and happy. Even some of the music. Like I, I remember when I was in my teens listening to Men at work, you know? Yes. And like the song down Under and whatnot. And I, I literally taught myself how to code in a very low level language of, of assembly language, listening to that one album over and over and over and over again. And, you know, it’s, it’s, when I listen to that, it just takes me back to my teens where I was like, learning how to, okay.
But see how Marco see how wonderful that is. Yeah. So when you listen to Men at Work, it could all of a sudden connect you to, oh my God, my best friend so and so, or I kinda had a crush on that girl. We need that. We need that innocence. And, and you know this because we both spend time with a lot of women and men that have done very well in life. Yeah. There’s a lot of pressure in doing well. Yeah. And so, as a therapist and life coach, I need to take you back into places of innocence.
Yeah. So, you know, I I originally asked you what causes this to slip away, you know, and, and you perfectly, you know, brought it around and how, and, and answered the question, how do you bring it back? Right. But you know, I I know you talk about the five things that cause this mindset, you know, and the belief in magic and miracles and whatnot to slip away or disappointment. Yeah. Dissatisfaction, pain, loss, and then depression. What are the two biggest ones that erode, you know, that mentality and that faith?
What are the, I’m loving that you did your homework. Yeah. Boom. I love this. Okay, I’m gonna go with disappointment and pain. So let me tell you what I mean.
Okay.
Disappointment is, I start a company. I saw Sarah Blakely take Spanx to where she did with the help of some people. And I’m thinking, man, I’m gonna hit those kind of numbers.
Yeah.
Four years later, five years later, it’s quite the opposite. Disappointment, disappointment means something did not work. Okay. Yeah. So what I see with a lot of people that me and you spend time with is a, have a project, doesn’t work as they thought it would, disappointment a relationship maybe they’re in, doesn’t work how they thought it would. Disappointment. So there’s actually a, a, a, a proverb in the Bible that says, unrelenting disappointment can make you heartsick. Well, that’s not good. ’cause The heart is the center. Joy comes from the heart, peace comes from the heart. Faith comes from the heart. So what I see with a lot of guys that we spend time with is they’re heartsick. They’ve been disappointed by maybe their kids, disappointed by companies, disappointed by relationships. So disappointment is one. Another thing is pain. I call it life interruptions. Man. Nobody wakes up and says, this is the week.
I’d like a lot of pain, <laugh>, <laugh>. But man, pain can come, it could be in a lawsuit outta nowhere. It could be in a challenge from an employee. It could be someone tries to split your company. It could be real estate investments you thought were gonna work. So that’s, you know, that’s where I come in. If you see somebody on TMZ, most likely they’ve come to Tim Story or they’re on their way in the area of celebrities. That’s my strength. I deal with people in pain. So disappointment and pain that they usually did not see coming.
Interesting. Well, that happens to all of us. I mean, everybody experiences disappointment, you know, hundreds if not thousands of times in life. Yeah. And even, even pain. I mean, it’s, it’s just a common human state. But then, then that begs the question like, how hard is it to catch ourselves when we’re there? But more importantly, how do you write the ship? Like how do you, how do you get yourself out of that, that groove that rutt to, you know, get yourself back in the state that you want to be like the positive mindset, you know? Yes. The miracle mentality. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>.
So Marco, watch how cool this is. So I’m never trying to conjure up positive thoughts so I can start feeling better.
Right.
I just wanna become in alignment to who I really am. Right. So again, if I feel like I was created with a miracle mentality, then that is my true self. That’s my authentic little Timmy story from Compton. That’s me. All I wanna do is get in alignment. So this morning already, I’ve been listening to a book on tape by Bob Proctor, the Late Great Bob Proctor on a certain subject that he’s teaching on. And so that book of, of listening to that book for an hour helped me get in alignment. Prayer or meditation helped me to get in alignment in the area where I live. There’s a little place where I put in the morning I practiced my putting for golf that put me in a state where I was just feeling good about life. That puts me in alignment. So it’s not trying to conjure something up or hype myself into a position, I’m just getting in alignment with who Tim really is. And you’re getting into alignment with who Marco really is.
So how are you pulling that off? Like, when you wanna write the ship? I mean, are you saying like, listen to music, watch a TV show, read a book that helps put you back into whatever your alignment is?
Yeah. So I think that it’s two things. We have to watch what I call your ear, your ear gate, and your eyegate. So your irrigate and your eyegate. So what I see and what I hear, it’s like sometimes someone will say, you gotta watch this series on Netflix. And I watch it and it’s very disturbing. It’s dark, it’s going all kinds of crazy places. And I’ll do my best to stick with it ’cause my friend said, but if it’s too disturbing, just going in weird places, I will just go boom and shift it to something else. Yeah. And maybe watch when Harry met Sally <laugh>.
Right.
Okay. Same thing to music. You know, I coach some of the biggest rappers in the world. I don’t listen to all their music. ’cause Some of it is just not that great for my soul.
Right.
So I really watch what I see I gate and what I listen to. So every morning, Marco, for one hour, I renew my mind. I feed my faith and I starve my doubt. So when I leave my house, I’m not just like, everybody throw anything you can at me. No man, I’m already like, mind set already today. I’ve done it.
Well, you know, that actually segues into one of the most exciting things I wanted to ask you about. I was thinking about this last night. Yeah. And it, it’s, it’s about toxic thoughts and negative thinking because those two things, toxic thoughts and negative thinking can be very destructive. Yes. And for most people, it holds them back. If they don’t know how to deal with it or overcome it, it holds them back. So I guess my question would be how do we become aware that we are processing these toxic thoughts and negative thinking? And then my second question to that would be, how do we actually overcome those toxic thoughts and negative thinking?
Yeah. So as you know from reading all these books, that we get thousands and thousands of thoughts that come into our mind every day. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> as some people would say, like over 50,000 thoughts that come into our minds. And it could be like, you are watching a TV show and they talk about an illness and they say, and it could cause this and that, and that. You’re like, oh man, my right shoulder’s been hurting. Maybe I have that illness. <Laugh>, it’s like a thought. And so the the thoughts will come, here’s the key. What do I do with those thoughts? So the thoughts, the thoughts will come. What do I do with those thoughts? What I, what I do with these thoughts is I just let them just go and I push ’em past. I, I push ’em past, I push ’em past. And the key is to so renew your mind and cleanse your mind and free your mind that when negative thoughts come, they feel foreign. So negative thoughts are foreign to my mindset. So if somebody starts to gossip about a friend of mine, they go like, you know, she’s really bad. You, you probably don’t know her, but she’s really, really bad. I don’t do well with that because I’ve learned to free my mind and clear my mind that that’s not the way my mind works. Mm-Hmm.
So once you learn to renew your mind, as you know, it’s a beautiful place to be because those negative thoughts about we’re not gonna make it, I’m going under, they have a hard time staying in a mind that chooses to be renewed and have a miracle mentality.
So a big part of it is avoiding it. Like identifying, knowing that they’re negative thoughts and then taking them outta your mind, suppressing ’em.
You said it perfect. Watch you identify, you recognize, and then I call it mind maintenance.
Okay.
I do mind maintenance several times a day because I hear a lot of negative stuff that you don’t Yeah. Because I’m a therapist. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. So I get a lot of calls from good people that say the sky is falling.
Right.
And if I just took that on the whole time, I’m in trouble, man. I gotta do mind maintenance. Even on myself.
I chose to stop watching mainstream media news about four years ago. I just shut it off entirely. I try not to spend any time talking to anybody who’s negative, whether it be on the phone or in person. You know, I just excuse myself and move on. And I choose to be around people who I can learn from, make me feel good, that inspire me. So I create my environment, you know? Yes. That I like, I, I, I want to create the environment that feeds me positive energy, and I just have too much going on. And I, if I stop to think about all the things that I’m working on and all the ventures and whatnot that I’m involved in, and I start to think about what if this goes wrong or what if that goes wrong, I could bury myself in negative thoughts. Yeah. Yes. And I really don’t wanna do that. I know I don’t want to do that, and I do my darnest to avoid it.
And Marco, I think you would agree with this, that when, when we see somebody that has a miracle mentality, whether it be a school teacher that you had or one of your parents or grandparents, when someone has a miracle mentality, it changes environment. And I’ll tell you something that I’ve noticed about you by being around you through the Aspire tour, is you, you walk with a miracle mentality. I don’t know how you got it. I, we’ll find out more another time. But you walk with that, and when somebody walks with that type of miracle mentality, it creates an atmosphere. And so that’s a beautiful thing for people to realize that that atmosphere can change if you have children, it could change your children. If you have your mother and father alive, it could still change them. The miracle mentality changes the reality of even people around us.
Yeah. Well, thank you for saying that, and thank you for noticing. I, I appreciate it. Nobody’s really ever said that to me, at least not the way you’ve said it, so.
I watch it. I, I watch it because, you know, when I watch Aspire tour, which really in my estimation is a movement that is gonna continue to grow and just help, you know, millions of people.
Mm-Hmm.
<Affirmative>, you know, you decided to take your time. You decided to invest, you decided to lead. And through that mentality and mindset with you and some of the other people that are involved, oh man. We’re seeing people that have been stuck in amott life go to an utmost
Life. Yeah.
And what, what a beautiful way to live, right?
Yeah. Yeah. We’re seeing it, we’re getting great stories from people coming back. I mean, I probably shouldn’t even, you know, share this, but there was a lady who approached one of our team members on, on the floor. It was, it was, you know, a pretty large event. We had 25, 500 people there. But this lady approached one of our team members and said, you know, I’m so glad I came to this event because she said I was considering taking my life this week. And, you know, it changed the way she was thinking and she didn’t.
This is very, this is very real. And Marco, as you know, we, we, we both know good people that, that have thoughts like that, that life seems so overwhelming. And I think it’s so smart the way you guys put up different types of speakers, women and men with different stories. Because if, if maybe one person’s story doesn’t connect with someone, the, the, the speaker after that will connect to them. And so no, but this, the miracle mentality that you are walking with Marco is evident and is needed. And doesn’t this conversation make both of us want to continue in this miracle mentality?
Well, I appreciate you saying that. So let’s let’s start winding things down here. I’m gonna throw a couple more questions at you that kind of round out the conversation for today. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>, you know, we’re talking about mindset. Do you have a comment or a thought about what mindset we, as in my audience, should apply when it comes to our own personal finances?
Yes. I, I think that the key is to become more educated in finance. And just because my background of doctrine and world religion, there’s a scripture in the Bible that says, my people are being destroyed because of their lack of information. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>, the word destroyed there means they’re unraveling. So you don’t have to be afraid of taxes, you don’t have to be afraid of bills that come in. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. When you have the right mindset towards finances, and you realize that money could be made, money can be spent correctly, you could be a good steward of your money, that all of a sudden you have leverage, I call it legal leverage. And so that’s one of the important things to realize. And then to realize that money is, is many times seasonal. Just like there’s a winter spring, a summer and a fall. That’s the way it is sometimes even with investments. But let’s continue to learn, get educated in the area of money and finances and spending and how we spend, and then we’ll have legal leverage and I think we’ll do nothing but continue to rise up.
Yeah. And I’m a big fan and a big believer in you know, in knowledge in education. Yes. You should be a perpetual student, you know, I know Robert Kiyosaki, and he will be at the back of the room with a notepad, writing down notes, listening to someone who is far, far, far less successful and experienced than he is. But he knows that there’s gonna be some things that are said that, you know, reminds him of what he already knows and is not applying or something that he’s never heard before. So he’s a perpetual student. He’s always trying to learn from anybody in anything he can.
Like what you’re saying. And, and never be too proud to ask. Like there’s, there’s certain things I don’t know. And someone will start talking and a certain level of how they did this, and they merged that and did that. And I’ll say, okay, wait a second. So, okay, how did you do that? Mm-Hmm. <Affirmative>. And even though I maybe become a master at what I do, I’m getting even better in certain areas that maybe Marco knows, but maybe there’s areas that Tim story knows than Marco will learn from me. Yeah.
Everybody can teach you something. There’s, there’s nobody out there that doesn’t know something or experience something in life that can’t teach you something. And, you know, I, I like, I always like to start my talks with, you know, asking people the question, ignorance is blank, you know, and most people say, well, ignorance is bliss. And well, I always say, well, you know, there might be truth in that at times, but in my world, ignorance is expensive.
What you don’t know can be costing you time and money and opportunity.
That one is pretty unbeatable, what you just said, ignorance is, is expensive. <Laugh>,
Let’s stick with that. Yeah. I, I, no, I, I love it. So, and then maybe share, if you don’t mind, some tips, if you have any on establishing a, you know, fulfilling or productive work life balance. Something that I don’t have <laugh>, so Yeah. But you know, what would you, what would you say about.
I do have it, I have it and I believe in it and many of my good friends that, you know, Marco don’t believe in balance. I do. Yeah. And if I could just go through this quickly, there’s different parts of your life. There’s your mind, which is the clarity of your mind, the strength of your mind. There’s the spirit. Yeah. There’s your physical body watch, there’s your job, there’s your finances, there’s your family, there’s a relationship. Whether you’re in one or out of one, there’s your social life. So that’s called the Dennis Waitley Wheel of Success. Okay. Many guys I coach, I’ll say financially, scale of one to 10, where do you think you are? They’ll say nine or 10 job wise, where are you? Eight or nine? Family life with your kids, three or four relationship with your wife or your girlfriend or fiance? Four or five. Okay. So what they’ve done is they’ve run towards the money and they’ve left this other behind. Okay. And then many times you’ll see that even in the area of their body and their mindset, I believe that you can be strong in the wheel of life, that you can be solid 7, 8, 9, solid 8, 9, 10 in all areas. And if one area is lacking, then we take time and go after that area. We don’t leave that area behind.
So that involves self-analysis of looking where you’re strong and where you’re weak, and then putting the time and energy and focusing on strengthening where you’re weak. It’s obviously a conscious effort.
You did that. My, they’re gonna start calling you the life coach to the stars. That <laugh> That was perfect.
<Laugh>. Okay. Well, I was just thinking this visually, so.
No, that’s good. No, that’s what you do. You analyze like, I’m stressed out. Okay. Yeah. Maybe you should go to Big Bear Mountain and see if the snow showed up.
<Laugh>. <laugh>. Right. That’s funny. Very cool. Well, you know, Tim, I know I could chat with you for hours and you know, I feel like I’m you know, picking your brain a little too much here with too many questions, but maybe this is a good place to wrap it up. Do you have any final comments, thoughts, or takeaways before we wrap it up? And then I’ll ask you how people can follow you?
Yeah, I just wanna say that to everybody watching and listening today won’t ever put yourself down. I say this, you may not be what you wanna be, but thank God you’re not what you used to be <laugh>. So don’t put yourself down and you’ve come a long way. And today’s decisions are tomorrow’s realities. So let’s decide to get better. Keep following Marco and his podcast and let’s get better every day.
Yeah. Very, very well said, Tim. Well, Tim, I appreciate you taking the time. I know I’ll see you here in a few weeks, and then we will see you at the next Aspire event in Santa Clara. And then of course, we have our, you know, bigger event in Dallas, Texas in February. Yes. We keep talking about Aspire. I think, you know, I should just kind of throw it out there for those listening who would like to attend or see if it’s in a city nearby. They can just go to the website at Aspire with an a aspiretour.com. And you’ll see Tim on there of course. And you know, my, my business partners and a whole bunch of other people. So you know, we would love for you to come out and, and attend and see Tim Story live on stage, talking about everything that he talks about more than what you heard today. So Tim, thanks for coming on. I appreciate you taking the time.
What a great conversation. So keep following Marco, and then if you wanna find out what we’re up to, just timstory.com, so TIM and then S-T-O-R-E Y.com.
Yep. You just answered my last question for you so I don’t have to ask you. And that’s how to follow you. So timstorey.com, and I’ll put that in the show notes and everywhere else so people can just click and go straight to your website. Thanks again, Tim.
Well, thank you for listening to today’s interview with my friend Tim Story. It was very interesting to have a conversation with him here today, but I probably will bring him back on the show next year in 2024 because there was just so much more that I could have talked to him about and asked him about. But in the meantime, I’m gonna wrap the show up if you want to talk to my team and have your free strategy session to talk about investing specifically on the real estate side of things, but even on the promissory note side of things, just contact my team and get your free strategy session. I love questions about real estate. Feel free to send them to me on our website at passiverealestateinvesting.com or just email me at askmarco@passiverealestateinvesting.com. Remember to subscribe to the show, takes you a couple seconds to click the subscribe button, and you’ll never miss a weekly episode. Thank you for all your ratings and reviews. I greatly appreciate it. Thank you for listening, and we will see you on our next episode.
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